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      CommentAuthorjeanviet
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2007 édité
     


    Sur le Web, heureusement il n'y a pas que des grosses structures comme Google qui dès que vous avez un problème vous renvoie une réponse préformatée qui répond dans 80 % des cas complètement à côté de la plaque.

    Le web c'est aussi des petites sociétés innovantes à l'écoute de leur public,où le PDG est prêt à s'investir  de sa personne pour vous aider à mieux intégrer sa solution.

    J'avais un petit problème d'intégration avec wishlistr, le PDG (Jimmy) s'est mis en 4 pour m'aider à le résoudre....

    Voici un extrait de nos échanges (désolé c'est en anglais), que je partage pour en aider quelques uns... si ça en intéresse quelques uns je le traduis.

    Jeanviet:

    > > Why have you choose this structure for the list we put in blog ???
    > >
    > >  <dl>
    > >   <dt><a href="">Your first wishlist item</a></dt>
    > >   <dd>Additional info for your first item</dd>
    > >   <dt><a href="">Your second wishlist item</a></dt>
    > >   <dd>Additional info for your second item</dd>
    > >   <dt><a href="">Your third wishlist item</a></dt>
    > >   <dd>Additional info for your third item</dd>
    > >  </dl>
    > >
    > > why not <ul> and <li>, it more usable I think.... I've got bad
    > > things with dl dt dd...


    Jimmy:

    HI,

    > What kind of markup you receive for your linkroll depends on how you
    > choose to present it. If you choose to include the text from the
    > additional info field, the javascript will generate a definition list
    > (dl, dt, dd). If you choose to exclude the additional info, a
    > unordered list (ul, li) will be generated.
    >
    > There's several reasons for this. First of all, it's the most
    > semantically correct way of doing it. If a list contains a series of
    > terms (the different items) and definitions (the additional info) it
    > should be marked up as a definition list. Here's what the W3C says:
    >
    > "Definition lists, created using the dl element, generally consist of
    > a series of term/definition pairs (although definition lists may have
    > other applications)."
    >
    > http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722/mod-list.html
    >
    > Also, if we were to use an unordered list in both cases — even if the
    > additional info is included — it would mean that you could not style
    > (with CSS) the wishlist item and the additional info differently,
    > independent of each-other, as they would be marked up with the same
    > tag (li). By using the dt-tag for the wishlist item and the dd-tag
    > for the additional info it's possible to style each of them
    > independently.
    >
    > I'm not sure what you mean by "having bad things with dl, dt, dd".
    > You should be able to style the definition list to look exactly the
    > same as an unordered list does on your site, if that is what you
    > want. If you show me your blog I might even be able to help you with
    > that.
    >
    > Hope that clears things up.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    > Jimmy, Wishlistr

    Jeanviet:


    > Hi Jimmy,
    >
    > Thanks a lot for your quick answer....
    > Finally, I choose to exclude the additional info.
    >
    > Here's the result:
    > http://favoris.jeanviet.info/
    > In the right column, last table.
    >
    > I would like that dl and dt and dd act like ul and li (text-align
    > on the left)
    > with text-align:"left"; on the css, i'm not sure it works.
    >
    > Wishlistr is a great concept...  If some french guys are lost in
    > your website maybe you can redirect them here:
    > http://blog.jeanviet.info/2006/12/18/wishlistrcom-bookmarkez-et-
    > partagez-votre-liste-au-pere-noel/
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Jean

    Jimmy:

    Hi Jean,

    I've had a look on your site and checked out your CSS-file. I think
    the following CSS will make dl, dt and dd look just like ul and li:

    #droite dl {
    display:block;
    width:177px;
    margin-left:3px;
    margin-bottom:3px;
    margin-top:3px;
    padding:0;
    }
    #droite dl dt {
    list-style-type:none;
    margin: 0;
    padding: 1px 2px;
    }
    #droite dl dd {
    list-style-type:none;
    margin: 0;
    padding: 1px 2px;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #EBEBEB;
    }
    #droite dl a {
    display:block;
    width:177px;
    }

    I think the problem you might have had could have something to do
    with the fact that dd:s has a bit of left margin added as default. So
    unless you set the left margin to 0 in your CSS the dd:s will not be
    left aligned. Hope that helps.

    Thanks a lot for providing instructions for the bookmarklet in
    french! We're currently working on the next version of Wishlistr and
    if it's okay with you we'll probably add a link to the instructions
    on your site on our bookmarklet page when we update.


    Regards,
    Jimmy

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